Talk:MAP10: Redemption (TNT: Evilution)

I have just played this level, and I have just watched a video on YouTube of someone playing this level. While the other secrets found score 100% on the end of level summary screen, there are two secrets that I haven't been able to access without using the no clipping cheat code.

On the outer rim of the central corridor, there are two closets (one on the east side, one on the west side - use the iddt cheat on the map to display), each closet contains a double-barrelled shotgun. Entering one of these closets to get the shotgun will open the opposite wall in that part of the corridor, allowing an alternate access into the central courtyard. If this wall is opened, from within the courtyard, one can go back through this opening in the wall by going up to it and activating the lift so that it drops down for access.

My point being, I'm not reading of this secret being listed anywhere, it doesn't seem to be counted in the list of secrets, and above all, I can't figure out how to get these double-barrelled shotguns without no-clipping through the wall. Once inside the shotgun closet, I can open the door which will remain open. Is this an inaccessible (but unscored) secret that should be listed in the secrets as such, or can someone verify how the shotgun closets on the outer rim of the central corridor are opened. Thank you for your assistance. 67.160.144.16 00:16, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * You enter them by respawning in deathmatch. Use a level editor to see the start point in each closet.  Doom II MAP07 has a similar room, inaccessible in solo or co-op mode.  These are mentioned in the article &mdash; "two respawn points will open alternate entrances" &mdash; but I agree that there could be a bit more detail.    Ryan W 00:38, 13 April 2012 (UTC)